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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Severe Toe Cramping Reply with quote

Ever since I was a child, I've experienced severe toe cramping in both of my feet, at times simultaneously. I am now 22 yrs old and have minor toe cramps at least every other day and severe, debilitating cramps at least once a week. When I get the cramps my toes curl and the pain continues to the arch of my foot. Sometimes after a very intense cramp, my leg will feel sore as if I had a strenuous exercise. It is impossible to walk or stand when they strike and can last up to 10 minutes. The cramps are triggered by walking (short or long distances), exercise, high heels, stretching my leg out to put jeans on, and strangely when I'm in a hurry. I've seen many specialists and my symptoms and pain have been dismissed. After dealing with this for over 10 years my toes are slightly deformed (claw like). I have had various tests that show no vitamin deficiencies and I am very healthy. I've learned to anticipate the cramps, but I am still very tired of dealing with this everyday of my life. I am desperate! PLEASE HELP! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have many of the same symptoms and most of my cramps are brought on by wearing high heels with little arch support. It has gotten so bad that I have to walk in place for 15 minutes just to get my feet to relax. I've been taking muscle relaxants just to keep them from cramping. It doesn't only happen at night--mine can (and have) happened at any time during the day or night, awake or asleep, but mostly awake.

I have fantasized about amputating them just to avoid the pain. I'm anxious all the time and refuse to wear anything besides good tennis shoes (even barefoot I can get them).

Sure wish someone had good advice besides pills. I don't believe that is the only solution and I have a feeling we aren't the only 2 crazies! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just read your post message and may provide some help. I too had the chronic pain you describe which was caused by wearing thin trainers while climbing a ladder which 'displaced' the bones in my 2nd and 3rd toes, which in turn 'pinched' the nerves running between them.
The answer for me was to see an excellent chiropractor who 'clicked' the metatarsals back into position, and manipulated the metatarsals back into the correct position.

The pain killers which are a wonder and only available on prescription are TYLEX and are amazing.

Other options are changing your shoes, buy shoes with a wide and high toe box, and exercising your foot by walking (without shoes).

I hope you read this, and it helps, as the pain I also experienced was overwhelming and left me desperate for help.

My foot is not 100% and I still worrey about it now, some 3 years on, but I now know where to go for help.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: toe pops out of joint, toe cramp????? Reply with quote

I don't really know what is causing my problem or even exactly how to explain it. However I will give it my best shot and hope that someone somewhere in the world can shed some light on my problem. Every now and then I get a cramp at the joint of my second and third toe (right foot) so bad that my third toe just gets a mind of it's own and literally pops out of joint. You can actually see the bone all the way down the top of my foot popping out. One time it was popping out so far that I thought the bone would break. It hurts so bad! It usually only lasts a few minutes. The only thing I can do is try to walk it off (which is difficult cause it hurts so bad). Also it appears to help when I shake my foot up and down. It is really weird and painful! Recently I have been working out a bit harder at gym. I don't know if it has anything to do with that? The problem seems to come and go. As I child it happened often, but now as an adult not as often but when it does happens, it seems to be getting worst and worst??? Has anybody else ever experienced this????
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Foot Cramps Reply with quote

I too, have been plagued with severe foot cramping. This began about a year ago. It seems to happen at random, but I do notice that it is always triggered when I stretch my calves by pointing my toes. They can be debilitating to the point that I have had to sit on the floor, literally pulling my toes back to straighten them out for up to ten minutes. And it's not just the cramps, my feet ache all the time, they just spasm and hurt. I have tried heat, ice, muscle relaxers, prescription insoles, new shoes, no heels, no flats, no shoes!! The only thing that somewhat works is stretching. My podiatrist says that the cramps may be due to the calf muscles being too tight. The arch of the foot is connected to your calf, so when the calf is tight, it pulls the arch muscles in your foot. I try to stretch 3x a day, alternating legs. Do three sets on each leg, holding each posiition for 30 seconds (no bouncing). You can google calf stretches and find some good ones. The best I've done is the one where you face a wall, put one leg back (straight). The other is in front, slightly bent, and then just lean into the wall, keeping your back heel on the floor and your knee straight. You will feel the stretch.

Also, I have found that the only shoes that really are comfortable are my Ugg boots. and I wear them as much as possible!!

I totally feel for you guys. It is so frustrating to always fear these cramps, having to take into consideration how far you'll have to walk when you go somewhere, not being able to run or jog. I'm getting married next year and I'm already worrying about standing or dancing for too long and how bad my feet are going to hurt!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject: metatarsel cramps related to high arch Reply with quote

I too have had cramping in my metatarsels. My most recent episode, like all of the others, hit me out of the blue. However, I had been in a shoe store trying on shoes and the event happened about a half hour later.

I think a lot of the cramping has to do with making my toes hold my shoes on. Therefore, I know longer wear shoes without a heel strap. No more mules, flip flops, or clogs.

I rarely wear high heels because that seems to put pressure on the ball of my foot and then I will have an episode.

I also wonder if the situation doesn't correlate to a high arch. I think I have a high arch. My most recent 'attack' had my husband massaging my feet and he noticed that I had (and still do) a knot in the arch of my feet. The biggest knot is in the foot of the recent cramp.

Just some thoughts...I'd love to hear if anyone else has knots, high arches, or has also stopped wearing shoes that don't naturally move with your foot (i.e. flip flops).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my fourth toe,right foot started cramping and bent itself under my foot (bad pain) and at the same time, a spasm in the muscle on the right ribs, maybe 3 inches down from the sternum,
it felt like being a puppet on a string and the string had been pulled from the muscle spasm through to my curled under 4th toe.
it bent me forwards.

i googled fourth toe right foot cramps and this forum was top of the pile.
having read through the posts i find i am not alone.

so i guess the bottom line is....

has any one got any opinions or knowledge as to what the problem is ?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had this problem since i was a teenager, started with cramps at night or if i was in sitting position with my legs tucked under me, big toe comes up second toe goes down, the pain - immense!
I would (And still do) worry about it happening, especially when driving.
I used to massage my feet every night, avoided going out, avoided cinemas incase i cramped, it took over my life!

These are things that have helped me on a day to basis....
massage foot and leg area
stretching - putting two hands on the wall and stretching my calf muscles by bending one knee and stretching the other - do this every day - apparently it will lenghten the muscles my podiatrist said.

Crampex tables (contain calcium and magnesium)
Bananas (potassium)

I dont think my feet will ever be normal, i still get that 'jolt' in the muscle but im usually able to massage or stretch the cramp away before it kicks in now. i dont wear high heels or cheap shoes, and never shoes with no straps (like ballet pumps)
i still avoid stuff like walking on sand barefoot, avoid vibrating floors in nightclubs (guarenteed to cause a cramp, and has done on two occasions- embarrasing!!)

i think people dont understand if they dont suffer from it! Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found my food was pretty much salt redundant.... since i have been adding salt to my meals i have found i no longer have cramps.
i have no idea why this has worked or if it may help others but this is what is working for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going through a bad patch again.......... having to stretch muscles twice a day and is worse after i have been on my feet all day. will try adding more salt to my food but then salts not that good for you is it? i am drinking powerades that say they replenish sodium, mag, calc, potassium.... think another trip to the doctors is needed... Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was doing pretty much the same as you and had similar thoughts.

imho i was getting every thing i needed in supplements etc.

every body is different...

for me the change came when i started putting plain old ordinary iodized salt on my meals.

ive had a couple of attacks since but in retrospect i could blame them on the fact i had been slack about putting salt on my meals.

i really hope/wish it is so simple for every one, as i empathize with your pain.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:51 am    Post subject: It's a mix of Vitamins, minerals and more Reply with quote

I know exactly what you are talking about. I've had toe and foot cramping for over two decades, sometimes several times per day. It became a real burden.

Here is what I believe is going on:

-Severe Vitamin B-12 deficiency (read the book 'could it be B12?' by Pacholok and Stuart, just google it)

-Sensitivity to red wine and liqeur

- Sensitivity to caffeine

- Magnesium/Calcium/Potassium deficiency

- Liver problems

- wrong shoes

It is actually a mix between all these, but mainly the B12 and caffeine.

I have taken Metanx for over 4 years now and it has been a real breakthrough! Metanx is a High Dosage Vitamin B (mainy B12) prescription. B12 sold over the counter is usually called 'cobalamin' (read the labels to check). The human body will create Methylcobalamin from the cobalamin. Some people's bodies, like me and possibly you, can NOT do that.

Therefore we need to take the Methylcobalamin. This is actually available over the counter at many drug stores now or at whole food stores, but in lower dosage than the RX Metanx. In some cases, it might even be helpful to get a Vitamin B12 Methylcobalamin shot from your doctor. It's cheap and you will ususally only need it every few months.

So again, if you find a B12 supplement, just check the ingredients and it will tell you which one it is. Take the Methylcobalamin and take A LOT of it. Google the dosages. Vitamin B is not dangerous when taken too much of it. Your body will just eliminate it if it's not needed.

The B-6 helps with circulation which seems poor in our extremities (feet, hands).

Vitamin C: 1000mg daily. You can even try as much as 3000mg daily and see how you feel.

Valerian: Helps a lot if you wake up at night with cramping toes/feet. It is an herbal supplement which relaxes muscles and helps you sleep. All natural. You can get vivid dreams (not nightmares, I actually have 007 James Bond like dreams and I am always the hero... Wink

The Magnesium/Calcium/Potassium needs to be supplemented too. Make sure you take a combined supplement. If you take too much Magnesium without Calcium or vice versa you can make it worse. Get an already combined product which has the right combination, available at any drugstore.

Caffeine is about the worst thing I found. If I want to have a cramp, I'll just drink coffee. I only drink Decaf and non caffeinated soda (very rarely, I'm not into soda). You might see a tremendous difference. Don't worry too much about missing the caffeine since the B12 has 'wake up' qualities too.

Skip the red wine and hard stuff. If you like alcohol, choose white wine. I do not have an explanation other than it works for me.

Learn to wear flat shoes whenever possible. I used to wear heels all the time and could not walk in flats anymore without cramping. Now, I have to admit, it's the other way around. I trained my feet to go in flat shoes and when I even try on heels, I might get a cramp. But heck, live is so much more fun with flat shoes! You can actually go for miles Wink

Most important is, that you do all this for one or two weeks before giving up! I know you all want an immediate relief but please give your body a few days. Don't give up! You will feel better! Have a routine, for example:

Morning: B Vitamins, C Vitamins, Magnesium/Calcium/Potassium

Evening; B Vitamins, Magnesium/Calcium/Potassium, Valerian

White wine only. No caffeine! Decaf is fine.

Wishing you all the best!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:57 am    Post subject: Muscle cramps Reply with quote

I read the post about muscle and toe cramps, especially in my toes and feet at night. I have suffered from these for several years. I learned through my doctor, that sometimes this is caused from having low potassium in your system. It is not the only reason, but common amongst people with a hypothyroidism. I suggest going to your doctor to confirm. They can supply you with supplements or suggest that you eat or drink products higher in potassium to give you a boost. Hydro One Premium beverages makes a BODE sports beverage that has 6 times more potassium than other sports beverages and is an excellent source of potassium and a good recovery drink. Potatoes, bananas, etc. are also good sources. My doctor told me that the vegatables or fruits do not provide the amount that I needed though, and prior to finding this beverages, he gave me a prescription supplement. I have been known to have my potassium just suddenly bottom out.I have been told by many that the Hydro One beverage eliminates cramps though. Cramps may be caused by other reason also, such as spine damage or simple stress from over work, so I highly recommend getting an expert opinion and seeing a doctor. Everybody is different and they have different underlying causes.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:59 am    Post subject: Acne Treatment Los Angeles Reply with quote

You have to go to an orthopedist, he'll find out what the cause of this cramp could be.
Maybe just a pinched nerve, or you have to wear some insoles to get rid of it..
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seek medical advice from your podiatrist or health care provider if you are experiencing frequent or severe cramping episodes.
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